Bob and Bonnie Smith bought
a bag full of Scubapro equipment
and a Key West dive trip for
$7,833 from the Ka Puka Wai dive
shop in Canton, OH on January
15, 2001. Though they paid for
the equipment, they didn’t take it
with them. The next day Bonnie
Smith called the shop to notify
them of Bob’s ill health, saying
she wanted a refund, then contacted
the shop daily thereafter to
attempt to cancel the order
(though the owner, Jonathan
Adamski, said they did not cancel
it until Jan 29). The owner
refused to make the refund, citing
a no-refund policy.
Unhappy, the Smiths went to
court, where they testified that
they were unaware of the norefund
policy, though Adamski
said there had been a no-refund
sign posted in his store for many
years. Smith said she did not
remember seeing the no-refund
sign although she had been in the
store on three separate occasions.
Adamski argued that the credit
card sales receipt set forth the norefund
policy, but admitted that
under some circumstances he
would refund money. Bonnie
Smith said she had specifically
asked what would happen if, for
example, something did not fit.
She testified that Adamski said “it
was no problem to send it back.”
Adamski said he was referring to
the exchange policy, and that he
had not told the Smiths they
could return the items for a
refund of their money. Smith
said she believed returning the
items to the supplier was no
problem, but Adamski said to
return the equipment to
Scubapro he had to pay a twentyfive
percent restocking charge.
The court ordered Adamski
to give the Smiths $5352.65, crediting
Adamski with the twenty-five
percent restocking fee.
Here’s a case that clearly got
out of hand. It seems ludicrous
for a store owner to refuse to
make a refund under the circumstances
discovered by the court.
But some dive shops have stringent
policies, and would rather
keep a customer’s money than
maintain good will. Obviously,
dive stores have a variety of
refund policies, so if you’re shopping
for pricey gear you need to
know the policy and reputation of
your store.
Within a twenty-mile radius of
Undercurrent’s Marin offices, three
dive shops have distinctly different
policies for handling returned merchandise.
Marin Skin Diving in San
Rafael offers a full refund if the
equipment is returned within thirty
days in new condition with the original
receipt. The others offer only
exchanges or store credits. While
Harbor Dive Center in Sausalito
imposes no time limit, Pinnacles
Dive Center in Novato requires the
merchandise be returned within
fourteen days.
These store policies are printed
on cash and credit card receipts, as
required by California law. Yet each
store and mail-order house follows its
own unique practices when dealing
with returns. Virtually everyone
demands that returned equipment
be in brand new condition, but
many also require it to be in the original
packaging, right down to the
Styrofoam in some cases. A few
stores refuse refunds on credit card
purchases, because when credit card
companies issue refunds they keep the three-percent fee they charged
to process the original purchase.
Someone who already has your
money in his pocket always
has the upper hand. |
Across the country, in Morehead
City, NC, Olympus Dive Center
refuses all refunds. Owner George
Purifoy notes that MasterCard
allows a customer eighty-nine days
to dispute a charge based on dissatisfaction.
Purifoy says some customers
have abused this privilege.
He tells the story of a father and son
who booked spots on one of his
wreck diving charters, paying by
card for the trip and rental gear. On
their first dive they got into a thirtyminute
decompression “hang,” and
the father was incensed when they
weren’t allowed to make the second
dive of the day! He disputed the
charge on his credit card bill, and
MasterCard reversed the transaction,
including the gear rental. As
Purifoy sees it, that’s the thanks he
gets for keeping the two divers “out
of a $20,000 chamber ride.” He’ll
offer store credits for returned merchandise,
but as he puts it, “We want
to have the decision in our ballpark,
not the customer’s.”
Howard Pruyn, who’s been operating
Philadelphia’s Diving Bell
Scuba Shop for twenty-nine years,
takes the opposite approach. “Our
policy,” he declares, is to “take care
of the customer. Our motivation is
to keep customers coming back and
to make them part of the family.”
Pruyn has no written policy because
he, like most dive shop operators,
seldom gets returns. So he offers
both refunds and exchanges.
Additional conditions frequently
apply. For instance, a store may
refuse to take back discontinued
items or equipment that was specialordered,
such as custom-fit wetsuits.
Most shops allow certain exceptions
to policies for good customers or
unusual circumstances. Jack
Kuhn of Sausalito’s Harbor Dive
Center says he even encourages
customers to take gear home and
try it in a pool. If there’s a problem,
they can exchange anything
that’s still in resalable condition.
Mail order houses each have
unique policies as well. Leisure
Pro (www.leisurepro.com, 800-
637-6880) offers full refunds on
unused equipment returned
within fourteen days of purchase.
It must be in mint condition and
in the original packaging, with all
packaging materials and blank
warranty cards. Customers must
also enclose a copy of the sales or
packing slip plus a note describing
the problem and requesting
repair, replacement, refund, or
credit against other merchandise.
Then everything must be
enclosed in a separate shipping
carton. Leisure Pro also insists
that customers call ahead for a
return authorization number, put
it on the outside packaging, and
send it back prepaid and insured
to their New York headquarters.
Sounds like a lot to do in fourteen
days!
Divers Discount Supply of
Rancho Santa Margarita, CA
(www.diversdiscount.com, 800-34-
SCUBA) offers a full credit or
refund on any item returned new
with original packaging within
thirty days. If the items are used
or not returned with original
packaging, they qualify for a seventy-
five-percent credit. New merchandise
returned between thirty
and ninety days after purchase is
subject to a fifteen-percent
restocking fee to cover charges
from the manufacturer to take
the merchandise back (whether
or not they send it back). Items
must be returned in the original
packaging, including all warranty
cards and manuals.
Reader Nathan Friedlander
(Mobile, AL) recently got into a
beef when trying to get a refund
on a wetsuit he ordered from a
similarly-named outfit, Diver
Discount of Tucson, AZ
(www.diverdiscount.com, 520-408-
DIVE). Nathan initially thought he
was dealing with the aforementioned
Divers Discount Supply, due
to the similarity of the company
names and of their Web addresses,
which vary by only one letter. (It’s
common for major marketers to
find competition like this spring
up. For example, 1/800- FL0WERS
was formed to compete with
1/800- FLOWERS. What’s the difference?
The knock-off substituted
a zero for a letter “O.”)
While Friedlander tells
Undercurrent he was refused a
refund, Nathan claims that was
never the case. Regardless, it took a
series of acrimonious calls and correspondence
before Nathan
returned the wetsuit and Britton
issued a refund. After reading
Diver Discount’s return policy, so
vaguely worded on their Web site,
it’s easy to see how confusion could
set in. The Web site says: “If you are
not completely satisfied with any
purchase from DiverDiscount.Com you may return any unused gear,
with the original packing materials,
within 30 days for full [sic],
exchange, or trade etc.” Just what
does “full” mean? Not exactly airtight,
is it? Nonetheless, David
Britton, who runs the Tucson retail
and mail-order operation, assures
us that he will provide a full
refund, credit, or exchange when
merchandise is returned.
Most dive shop owners go out
of their way to see that a customer’s
needs are satisfied before he or she
walks out the door. But if you think
there’s any chance you might
return a purchase to a dive shopor especially to a mail order firm
where you can’t try it on before buying—
be sure you get a clear, complete
statement of return policies and
restrictions in writing. Take nothing
for granted, or you might wind up
with a white elephant only good for
Flotsam & Jetsam
swap meets—or with a protracted
legal battle on your hands. And when
you talk with people, don’t get arrogant
or abusive; someone who
already has your money in his pocket
always has the upper hand.